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Jeff Gothelf from Lean UX - Design for behavior change

Today we talk to Jeff Gothelf, a coach, speaker, author & consultant helping organizations build better products and executives build the cultures that build better products.

Ryan Rumsey from Second Wave Dive - The language of business for designers

For this conversation, we focus on how to tailor design to different business settings to make effective trade-offs. Ryan speaks about how he learned how to be more strategic as a design executive.

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